Alamein Liberal Democrats

Election update

2010-04-15T07:47:00.001-07:00

Just weeks before crucial elections the Labour party in Andover has already given up the fight.

In the by-election for the vacant Anna ward borough council seat they haven’t bothered to nominate a candidate, leaving the election a three way contest between the Lib Dem candidate Tony Evans, a Tory and a UKIP candidate. This follows previous poor performances by Andover Labour in the 2009 county elections they came 4th with just 6% of votes cast and in the 2007 borough elections when they fielded just 5 candidates for 15 seats and gained less that 10% of the vote.

This poor performance confirms what we have all known for years that a vote for the Labour party in Andover and Test Valley is a wasted vote. In Andover voters have a simple choice - the current Tory administration or the Liberal Democrats.

The Labour party’s position is even more questionable when you consider that Labour party members, including their parliamentary candidate are standing under a “non political” banner for the Andover town (parish) council. Far better to be honest about your political allegiences and let the electorate decide whether you are fit for office. Perhaps they already know what would happen if they stood under a Labour banner.

Tory school policy condemned

2010-02-17T00:19:00.000-08:00

Lib Dem ppc for NW Hampshire Tom McCann has condemned the Tories’ proposals for “free schools” as unworkable and anti-democratic.

The Tory proposals, leaked last week, would allow anyone to set up a school and take control of schools away from local authorities and hand it over to centralised control from Westminster. The plan is copied from a similar system tried but unproven in Sweden.

The proposals have been rejected as unworkable and too expensive by not only the government but also Tory county councils such as Kent and Hampshire. Andover county councillor and Hampshire education spokesman David Kirk said “choice is something we’d all dearly love to be able to offer, but choice costs.”

Tom believes control of schools should rest with local people through their elected councils. “It is not something to be privatised and handed out at the whim of a government minister” he said. “This shows the Conservatives commitment to localism to be a sham. A vote for them is a vote to replace Labour centralisation with Tory centralisation. Even their own party activists don’t trust them.”

Tories must come clean on tax

2010-02-17T00:17:00.001-08:00

North West Hampshire’s MP Sir George Young has let the cat out of the bag about the tax status of the Tory party’s biggest donor, Lord Ashcroft. For months debate has raged over whether Ashcroft actually lives in the UK and pays tax, or is a “non-dom” - not domiciled in the UK for tax purposes. If he doesn’t pay tax then he is barred from funding the Tory party and the millions he has poured into their campaigns would have to be repaid.

When quizzed about this on BBC’s Newsnight Sir George said “He is in the same position as a number of Labour peers who are non-domiciled and who fund the Labour party.” In other words he doesn’t pay the full rate of UK tax.

The Conservatives, who have previously opposed changes to the law which would have forced parliamentarians to end their status as non-doms, are now desperately trying to play down the fresh confusion over Ashcroft. Meanwhile Ashcroft’s company Bearcroft Corporate Services is under investigation by the Electoral Commission following complaints that he has used it to circumvent the rules on funding political parties.

Lib Dem parliamentary candidate Tom McCann commented “Ashcroft’s dubious tax position must be clarified. Ten years ago, when he was given a peerage, he promised to come clean and pay tax. He still hasn’t done so and he and the Tory party are hiding his true status. This makes a mockery of David Cameron’s claim to be a reformer in favour of cleaning up politics.”

Hear for yourself what Sir George said at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8506284.stm

And read more of the story at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/09/lord-ashcroft-conservatives-tax

Lib Dems back 10:10 campaign

2010-02-17T00:08:00.000-08:00

Test Valley’s Liberal Democrats are calling on the borough council to sign up to the 10:10 campaign to cut carbon emissions by 10% in 2010.The motion submitted by Cllr Mark Cooper of Romsey and seconded by Cllr Len Gates of Andover highlights the success of the campaign and calls on Test Valley to join other Hampshire councils in actively supporting the 10:10 campaign.

Cllr Gates hopes the motion will get the support of all councillors. “Global warming is a far more serious threat to us and out future than anything else we have seen. It isn’t going to go away and it needs positive action to tackle it” he said. “This action is best taken at a local level and local councils have a major role to play. We can make a difference and we have a duty to do so.”

Tories refuse to support twinings workers

2010-01-16T14:35:00.000-08:00

Test Valley’s conservative councillors have rejected calls to back Twinings workers in their battle to save jobs in Andover. At Thursday’s council meeting they voted unanimously against a motion calling for them and the two local MPs to back the campaigners.

The motion proposed by Andover councillors Len Gates and Rod Bailey called on Test Valley’s MPs to support a parliamentary motion calling on Twinings to reverse their decision on redundancies and maintain full production at Andover.

In a sometimes angry debate, successive conservatives claimed it was not their responsibility to intervene and refused to back the workers calls for a review of the proposals. Instead they committed themselves to the company’s proposals and pledged the council to help find alternative work for those employees discarded by Twinings.

Speaking after the debate Cllr Gates said “I am disappointed the conservative group, like their MP, have chosen to ignore these calls for help. It raises doubts about their commitment to protecting jobs and securing real economic growth in Andover.”

Bus routes deffered

2010-01-16T11:11:00.000-08:00

Campaigners have expressed disappointment that Test Valley Borough Council will not be debating changes to local bus routes at its January meeting. A motion submitted by Andover councillors Len Gates and Mike McGarry calling for a review of the changes and the subsidy given by Hampshire County Council will be deferred to the council’s Overview and Scrutiny committee for consideration.

Commenting on the decision Cllr Gates said “It is a pity we will net be able to discuss the proposals now. I would now expect the committee to look at this and report back to full council as soon as possible. The county council must accept Andover is a growing town and needs an adequate public bus network. Not everyone has access to cars; many residents rely on the buses. We should be encouraging everyone to reduce CO2 emissions by using cars less and buses more and yet the county is sanctioning by its actions a reduction in bus services.”

Councillors will still discuss the matter at the Andover Forum on 25th January when Cllr Rod Bailey has called for a report on the proposals to be presented.

Tom McCann backs Litter Campaign

2009-12-01T00:46:00.000-08:00

During a tour of Andover to meet local community activists Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate Tom McCann met anti-litter campaigner Manuela Wahnon.

Tom and Manuela discussed her Attitude of Gratitude to clean up Andover and the rest of Test Valley. Manuela’s philosophy is simple “we’ve always got something to be grateful for in our lives, so with that in mind, obviously don't drop litter, but if you pick up one piece of litter a day you can make the world you live in a better place. “

Tom praised her hard work, funded entirely from her own limited resources, as an example of how individuals can and do make a difference to their communities. “As a Liberal Democrat I believe in empowering communities to take responsibility for their surroundings. Manuela is a shining example to all of us”

Tom will be joining Manuela and other Andover residents on a litter pick sometime in the New Year.

Full details of Manuela’s campaign can be found at http://www.attitudeofgratitude.co.uk/

Andover Lib Dems call for improved bus services

2009-11-29T09:44:00.000-08:00

Andover Lib Dems are backing local calls for a review of bus services in the town. Test Valley Lib Dem leader Len Gates has already condemned Stagecoach’s proposals to reschedule local services in January. “The new routes and timetables represent a cut in services” he said. “Stagecoach has been forced into this position because of lack of funding from the Tory controlled county council.”

Len and St Mary’s councillor Rod Bailey have held discussions with county councillors on the matter and Rod has called for a report on the new services to be brought to the next Andover Forum. Both believe the county and borough council should be looking for ways to increase not cut local services.

Andover’s Lib Dems are also fully behind the campaign to bring Sunday bus services to Andover. Len Gates and parliamentary candidate Tom McCann recently met local campaigner Barbara Carpenter and gave their full support to her petition for Sunday bus services. The petition is available in many shops around town or from len.gates@andover.co.uk.

Speaking after the meeting Tom said “local shops are now open on Sundays and many other events take place in the town centre after the buses have stopped running. The local councils should be looking at ways to encourage people into the town centre. Not everyone has access to a car or wants to use one. A good public transport service is essential to the economy and future of Andover.”

Bandstand - Latest

2009-11-28T07:32:00.000-08:00

Despite promises to do so leading Tories have failed to find funding for a replacement bandstand for Andover.

Assurances given at successive Andover forums were forgotten as the council’s cabinet voted to allocate cabinet funds to other projects including last minute additions to the budget program for projects in Romsey.

I raised this at Thursday’s full council meeting when I was told that the bid would be reconsidered next year and that no attempt had been made to find private funding to help replace the demolished building.

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Romsey’s successful bandstand was built with private funding topped up by a contribution from Test Valley. I and and your other Lib Dem councillors will be pushing to ensure the same happens in Andover.

A Town Council for Andover

2009-11-28T07:20:00.001-08:00

Test Valley Borough Council have finally given in and approved plans which will lead to a town council for Andover

Andover’s Lib Dem councillors have been calling for this since 1988. The change of heart came after two successive yes votes in consultations carried out across the town. I welcome the decision which puts local decision-making back where it belongs - with local people.

I and my Lib Dem colleagues all voted yes for the proposals which were opposed by just two councillors. We had two clear yes votes and must respect the voters views. Andover has a great future and the new parish (town) council will be an important part of that future helping to build a stronger and more inclusive community.

Elections for the new council will take place in 2010 and councilors will sit for five years rather than four.I have some reservations about a five year term but this seems the only option unless Andover has an expensive second election in 2011.

I am sure the new council will be a success and will work with Test Valley to improve the town. I hope all residents will support the new council including those who up till now have opposed its creation. Its your town and your council. Get involved and make it work. That’s what local democracy is about. Together we can all make Andover a better place for ourselves and for future generations.

If you are interested in becoming a town councillor contact me at len.gates@andover.co.uk.

New Trees for Smannell Road

2009-11-28T07:10:00.000-08:00

Regular readers will know I have written many times about the damage and disruption along Smannell Road and to the Smannell Road open space caused by successive building and other contractors. We have seen the road closed, temporary traffic lights, floods and the open space ploughed up to lay cables, pipes and whatever.

At last we are coming to the end of the works and as promised Test Valley Borough Council are starting to landscape the area again. As part of this landscaping new trees will be planted to improve the area.

Many of the young trees planted here have failed and are in a poor state due to damage caused by mowers, strimmers, etc. Also, nine trees were removed when the pipeline and bicycle path was installed. The damaged trees will be replaced by fifteen dawn redwood trees. These will be planted at semi-mature size and will be designed around the existing trees. The damaged trees will be removed in the next few days and the planting will take place some time around mid December.

The dawn redwood is a native to China and was introduced to Britain first in 1948. It is a coniferous tree but is deciduous, meaning it loses its needles in autumn. The tree is fast growing a can attain heights of 30m. It is a tree of outstanding natural beauty and the new trees will blend in very well with native species, which will surround them.

Road Closure in Smannell - Again

2009-11-28T07:05:00.000-08:00

Test Valley Borough Council have confirmed that Green Lane Smannell will be closed from 7 December for three months to allow works to lay improved telephone cabling between Little London and Smannell.

The closure was originally scheduled for 23rd November and caused widespread local anger because of the lack of notice given to residents. I agree with residents that the earlier closure was unacceptable and have concerns about the new proposals. I have spoken to the contractors who assured me it will be a rolling closure and disruption to residents will be kept to a minimum. They hope work will be completed in eight weeks rather than the three months proposed. I have also contacted Test Valley Highways department to confirm that the closure will not apply over Christmas and the road will be open to all traffic between 25th and 28th December inclusively. At other times residents will need to use the diversion via Enham.

Rumours this work is connected to the project to improve broadband provision in Little London are untrue. While the works will undoubtedly improve service to some households contractors are only laying copper cables which will not supply the broadband service called for by local residents. The Smannell Broadband group is still negotiating with Hampshire County Council on a project to bring adequate broadband coverage to the parish. I hope to report further on this in the New Year.

THINK AGAIN ON JOB CUTS

2009-11-22T10:40:00.001-08:00

Local Liberal Democrats have called for a rethink on the proposed job cuts at Twinings. Prospective parliamentary candidate Tom McCann and Test Valley councillor Len Gates spoke after meeting union members and officials to discuss the proposals.

Tom McCann welcomed the offers of support and retraining for affected workers and urged staff to make full use of them. “But first” he said “the company should explore all other options. Twinings is an important part of Andover’s economy. A successful and expanding Twinings factory is essential for the future of the Walworth industrial park and of Andover. Equally Twinings needs Andover and its work force. The company must sit down with unions and other parties to find ways of protecting and expanding production on this site.”

Len Gates added “Twinings is a successful company with a reputation for quality. That quality comes not just from their products but from the skill and dedication of their work force. These skills cannot be automatically transferred to new factories abroad. The company’s main markets are the UK and Western Europe. It would be in the company’s best interest to continue to supply these markets from the Andover site.”

Both Tom and Len will continue to work with the unions and other agencies to protect jobs and promote investment in Andover.

Jubilee Benches

2009-09-21T07:30:00.001-07:00

The pair of wooden Jubilee benches currently installed outside Andover’s Guildhall will shortly be removed for refurbishment following persistent misuse.

Councillor Marion Kerley arranged for the benches to be installed during her year as Mayor of Test Valley in 2000. She says “Sadly the benches are now so badly damaged that they have to be removed. In light of the vandalism over the years and the impending change to the use of the Lower Guildhall, it is now planned to refurbish and relocate them to other parts of the town where they can be fully appreciated and used as they should be.”

Cllr Len Gates has spoken to Mrs Kerley regarding this and expressed local concerns that the seats were to be removed and today emailed the corporate director at Test Valley to re-enforce this point as follows.

“I was disappointed to hear these benches were to be moved from the Guildhall. While I accept they need renovation to take them away permanently from the Guildhall and High Street is to remove a frequently used public facility.

On almost every occasion I’ve been in town I have seen people using them despite the fact they are damaged. Furthermore to remove them prior to giving Prezzo permission to use the Guildhall forecourt implies the decision to allow Prezzo to occupy this area is already made. In fact this point has been made in a letter in today’s Andover Advertiser.

I would prefer to see them remain where they are in front of the Guildhall and facing down the High Street. If they have to be moved can they be relocated either at the sides or further forward of the cobbled area so local residents still have the opportunity to sit there, in the sun, and enjoy the view of the High Street.”

Lillywhite Survey Results

2009-08-30T05:03:00.001-07:00

A recent survey of the Lillywhite Crescent area has highlighted residents concerns about traffic, youth nuisance and litter. The survey was carried out by Cllr Len Gates and Alamein Lib Dems in response to calls from a number of residents.

Respondents expressed concerns about speeding along Icknield Way, the use of this road by East Anton contractor traffic and the ineffectiveness of new traffic calming measures installed. The comments have been passed on to the police, Hampshire Highways and the contractors. “Contractor traffic is monitored and action taken against drivers using this route.” Len said. “The current traffic claming measures are the first stage of a program which will eventually see the north of Icknield Way closed to through traffic except buses and emergency vehicles. The completion of the scheme depends on building progress at East Anton.”
Residents are satisfied with measures taken by the police and wardens to control motor bikes and nuisance along Dark Lane although some problems still exist. The police nuisance vehicle campaign will continue throughout the summer and Len is talking to council officers about other measures to make the path safer for walkers and cyclists.
Fly-tipped rubbish and garden waste has been removed from Icknield Way and Dark Lane and the area will be monitored to prevent re-occurrence. Council officers are investigating the possibility of extra dog waste and litter bins here and along the path to Viking Way.
A number of other issues were also raised including damaged signs, improvements to footpaths, 20 mph speed limits and graffiti. All of these have been referred to council officers for further investigation and action.

Bandstand comes down

2009-07-28T11:15:00.001-07:00

Andover’s Vigo Road bandstand has now been demolished. At this stage it is appropriate that we look at how this came to pass and what lessons we learn from it.

The bandstand hasn’t been used as a bandstand since the 1960s. Most recently it was used as an aviary and many locals fondly remember the budgies in there. They were re-housed two years ago when changes in animal welfare legislation made it impossible to keep them there any more. Their removal in no way affected the integrity of, or future uses for, the building. Neither does the fact that once someone let a cat into the aviary.

Since then the building has been left empty, boarded up and frequently vandalised. The costs of repairing damage have run into thousands of pounds but at no time has anyone from Test Valley thought what should we do with this important local landmark. In May of this year TVBC Leisure department arranged a survey of the building and found it to be beyond repair. They submitted a recommendation to Cllr Mrs Noakes, cabinet member for Leisure that it be removed. Mrs Noakes, together with Cllr Ian Carr, leader of the Council authorised its immediate demolition. It was not unsafe and was in no danger of falling down. This has since been confirmed by council officers and by the fact that it withstood fairly heavy treatment in its demolition.

The decision was discussed informally by cabinet members, but at no time were other councillors informed or consulted. To date neither Cllrs Noakes nor Carr have felt the need to contact any of the three councillors in whose ward the bandstand stood and discuss the matter. The first they knew of the demolition was when they heard from the local press at least a month after the decision was made.

Since then Cllrs Gates and Bailey have had detailed conversations with council officers about the bandstand. Unfortunately, the bandstand was beyond repair, refurbishment or relocation elsewhere. The only reason for its removal was to get it out of the way in time for the BigFest on August 15th. This is despite the fact that the plans for the BigFest show all activities taking place at the other end of the park. Any attempt to postpone demolition would be referred to the next cabinet meeting in September. In other words it was coming down within the next week whatever local members said or did.

They did manage to agree with officers that we and a representative of the local history society could attend the demolition to ensure as much as possible of the building and its history could be saved. To that end Cllrs Len Gates and Mike McGarry and David Borrett checked the building before work started and monitored the works. As a result the weathervane and an engraved beam (previously unknown to council officers) were saved. Nothing else could be saved, a sad end to a much loved building.

Talking since to residents it is apparent there is a need and demand for a replacement. Andover Lib Dems will be pushing for this as soon as possible. We also need to ask why and how it came to this stage that there was no option but demolition. And we need some explanations and apologies from Cllrs Carr and Noakes who have lost touch with Andover, its people and their views.

Fly Tipping Removed

2009-07-23T10:30:00.001-07:00

Prompt action by Alamein Lib Dem councillor Len Gates has lead to fly-tipped rubbish being removed from Genoa Court.

The rubbish was spotted by Len on Monday and cleared the following day when reported to TVBC's environment department. Commenting on fly-tipping Len said "I am always amazed at why people should want to dump rubbish in the street. It lowers the neighbourhood upsets everybody and is completely unnecessary when there are plenty of alternatives."
"Household rubbish can be taken to the recycling centre on Walworth industrial estate. If you can’t take it there Test Valley will collect rubbish for you. Phone 01264 368000 for more details. If you see flytipped rubbish please call the same number and it will be removed. Together we can keep Alamein clean and tidy."

Bandstand Outcry

2009-07-20T14:10:00.000-07:00

Andover Liberal Democrat councillors have reacted angrily to council leader Ian Carr’s decision to demolish Vigo Road’s bandstand.

Speaking on Andover Sound Cllr Carr claimed it was within the remit of council officers to demolish the bandstand whenever they wanted. Officers consulted Cllr Carr and other cabinet members but significantly no-one bothered to advise or consult local councillors. When asked whether an Andover town council could have saved the bandstand he retorted the bandstand belongs to Test Valley and so they can do what they like with it.

Discussions have taken place about moving the bandstand and Cllr Carr also admitted he had no resources for a new bandstand and appealed for members of the public to come forward and pay for a replacement. When quizzed on the adverse publicity the decision had received he angrily blamed people for giving false information to the press. He also accused fellow conservative members of forgetting they had been advised of the decision which was made by the council’s cabinet only one of whom is an Andover member. Significantly only Tory councillors were advised of the decision.

St Mary’s councillor Rod Bailey said “The bandstand is an important local landmark and residents are furious that the decision has been made without consultation. The first I knew about it was when the story appeared in the local paper. This is unacceptable.”

Fellow ward councillor Mike McGarry said “I am appalled at the way this whole fiasco has been handled by the Leader and his Cabinet, firstly they make this decision without consulting the local people or the ward councillors, undemocratically giving us no chance to comment, secondly when residents are up in arms they try to rush it through so there is no going back and thirdly Cllr Carr makes promises about a replacement that he knows can’t happen in the current economic climate. How can he justify spending money on knocking it down, let alone building a new one when TVBC are making people redundant? ”.

Lib Dem leader Len Gates commented “Once again Cllr Carr and his colleagues have shown complete disregard for the people of Andover and behaved like feudal landlords in their attitude to the town. As with the Guildhall, the bandstand has been allowed to fall into disrepair and then this disrepair used as an excuse to destroy another part of Andover’s heritage. The latest claim is that the bandstand is so unsafe that it must be demolished immediately. If this is the case, surely it has been unsafe for sometime and has not therefore been maintained properly. Andover residents deserve some straight answers from Cllr Carr.”

Liberal Democrats on Test Valley Borough Council will be seeking a review of the decision making process and assurances that the bandstand will be replaced and preferably restored elsewhere in the park.

Guildhall losses finally admitted

2009-07-07T11:07:00.000-07:00

In a written answer to last night’s Andover Councillors Forum it was finally admitted that the council has lost money as a result of leaving the lower Guildhall empty.While full figures have not been given, council officers have confirmed that lettings income for the Upper Guildhall and Rendezvous is £5,500 down on income from the Upper and Lower Guildhalls over the previous year. In addition the council has spent £114,000 on set up costs for the Rendezvous. No figure has been given for the running costs (maintenance and staffing) of the two facilities.This adds up to £119,500 of council taxpayers money spent on closing the lower Guildhall and setting up an alternative facility that no-one wanted and very few people use. Most of the previous users of the lower Guildhall have since found alternatives to the Rendezvous because it is inadequate and in the wrong place. They also dispute council claims that facilities at the Rendezvous are superior to those at the Guildhall.In addition the council has still to see any rental income from Prezzo as no contracts have been signed. The value of this rental is described as confidential commercial information. However it has previously been claimed to be more than enough to cover running costs of both the Guildhall and the Rendezvous.
Cllr Len Gates said "I believe the answers given are totally inadequate. The costs and future of the Rendezvous and Guildhall are due to be reviewed by the council’s Overview and Scrutiny Committee later this year. I will insist on a more detailed response then".

Smannell Road to re-open

2009-06-10T03:11:00.000-07:00

Cllr Len Gates is pleased to report that work on the upgrade of Smannell Road is going to schedule and contractors plan to re-open the road on 19 June. The closure has caused great inconvenience to local residents (see previous stories on this website) and he hopes the contractors keep to this time table.

The road has been closed to allow contractors to build roundabouts for the new East Anton development in safety. The diversion via Upper Enham and Little London has delayed and inconvenienced drivers and led to damage on the alternative routes. He will be working with Smannell parish council and the highways department to ensure that these roads are made good.

Drainage Work at Smannell Road

2009-06-10T03:07:00.000-07:00

Local residents are questioning why so much work is being carried out along Smannell Road. A number of different contractors are involved laying fibre optic cables, building additional roundabouts and eventually traffic signals at Tescos.

In addition work is being carried out to improve drainage along the road and on the adjacent open space which has been prone to flooding in the past. As a result a number of the existing trees have been removed to facilitate this work. Council officers have worked with the contractor to avoid loss of as many trees as possible and have recorded the number, size and species of all trees removed. Several of the trees removed have been damaged in the past by vandals/mower damage, this would have reduce their lifespan.

Once the drainage work is completed a comprehensive re-planting scheme will be organised at this site to replace those trees removed. If you have any queries about the works please contact councillor Len Gates on len.gates@andover.co.uk or 01264 356759.

East Anton site traffic

2009-06-10T02:42:00.000-07:00

We have had a number of complaints from residents about East Anton construction traffic using Icknield Way north to Newbury Road.

The council’s planning legal agreement (section 106) is quite clear that all construction traffic must access the site via Smannell Road not Icknield Way nor Viking Way.

Ward councillor Len Gates has reported a number of lorries who have ignored this agreement to both the highways department and the site manager. Any lorry driver ignoring the agreed route will be ordered off site and not allowed to return.

If you see construction traffic using the wrong route please note their registration number and let Len know via the Report a Problem link on his web site. He will then take it up with the relevant authorities.

A sad day for the Guildhall

2009-06-06T13:29:00.000-07:00

At a meeting of Test Valley’s Northern Area Planning Committee, approval was given for advertising signs on the Guildhall. The application was from Prezzo for signs on the windows and plaques on each door announcing their presence in the building. I am pleased to report that a further application for illuminated lecterns with menus outside the building was withdrawn.Many residents have objrcted to the signs and I agree with them. The proposal is that every window (24 in all) will have Prezzo emblazoned across it in addition to three further plaques mounted on the walls. This I believe is completely over the top and will spoil the building the centre of our town and an important tourist attraction. There can be no-one in North West Hampshire that doen’t know Prezzo are moving into the Guildhall. We do not need 24 reminders across every available window.I was disappointed to hear some members of the committee arguing that the approval must be given so as to speed up the conversion of the building into a restaurant and that any one opposing the application was trying to block the changeover. Council officers made it quite clear that the change of use and the alterations to the building were separate matters and that one does not automatically follow the other.My ammendment, backed by St Mary’s ward councillor Mike McGarry, to restrict signs to the doors only was defeated by eighteen votes to two. A sad day for the Guildhall and for Andover